Vivons nous en "1984"?

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Le roman 1984 de Georges Orwell dépeint un monde effrayant, totalitaire, controlé et manipulé ou le simple fait de penser est condamnable. 

On trouve de nombreux échos de ce roman dans le monde moderne avec des réferences à Big Brother, l'émergence de la télérealité et le conformisme numérique, la manipulation des médias, l'etat de guerre constant relayé par les médias... On peut en effet se poser la question de savoir s'il existe encore véritablement une espace public de liberté et d'expression.

D'un autre coté, la surveillance généralisée imposée par la societé numérique  est la conséquence de notre attitude individuelle notamment sur les réseaux sociaux. On peut se demander si la surveillance est une atteinte à la vie privée ou une consequence de la société moderne.

Vous chercherez des ressources Internet pour étayer vos propos afin d'aborder les deux aspects de la question ( societé dystopique et surveillance). Vous vérifierez bien la validité de vos sources en les regoupant, en les évaluant... Vous pouvez vous aider pour commencer du padlet ci-dessous: (attention certains documents sont peut-etre sujet à contreverse!) 

Etape 1: Realisez un document de collecte avec vos recherches

Etape2 : Publiez vos arguments sous les commentaires (attention ce sont des commentaires publics. Attention au vocabulaire, orthographe...)

Et vous, pensez-vous que nous vivons dans un monde Orwellien?


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Commentaires (13)

  • 1. MWCFasquelle | 2016-10-30
Do we live in 1984?
Overall, no, we do not live in a totalitarian society. We don’t have an exact modern equivalent to Big Brother but when can consider it as a different entity altogether. We can compare Big Brother to two things: the pressure the world of social media and online image puts on us, or the governments who use secretive ways of surveillance to “spy” on everyone.

In today’s society, it’s impossible to get anything done without having your name be entered into some sort of database. Applying for any license or I.D. and you get put into a web or databases and online lists. Joining the millions of social media users will definitely put you online; one Google search of your name and anyone can see all the posts you’ve liked on Twitter or Instagram. You can never be freed of the eyes of the internet. In this way, there is a huge societal pressure to have a good online image for everyone to see. It wouldn’t only apply to family or friends, but also getting into colleges or a job that is selective about its employees.

The various governments of the world can spy on the virtual footprint left behind by all of their citizens. In the USA, it is the NSA, as Edward Snowden revealed to us, that uses the Patriot Act to access your phone records, use hacking exploits to access consumer electronic devices and IT systems as they see fit, having device manufacturers give them loopholes into their products, tap emails and phone calls and track movements through cellphone locations. Companies like Facebook, Google, Apple and six other leading online services have all passed customer records. This makes every individual’s digital footprint very susceptible to hacking and exploitation all because governments claim to want to improve national security through virtual monitoring.

We don't live under the same restrictive rules on social interactions. We can love people, date and procreate just for the desire to do so. We can feel whatever we want, and express it so long as no harm comes to any other individual; we are free beings with rules for the safety and tranquility of the world.

On the other hand, we don’t have such oppressive governments as Big Brother’s regime. Some big news publishers such as The New Yorker and Newsweek have stated, that we don’t live in a world similar to that of 1984. Other publishers such as CNN, Mic, Capitalist have argued that we do in fact live in a totalitarian society. This makes it a very debatable topic; as with everything else non-scientific, it's merely opinion.

In conclusion, some aspects of our lives are similar to that of 1984's world but in general, we don't live under the same circumstances. Governments do spy on us but cannot really act upon our internet footprints unless we were plotting to cause harm to someone else. We don't have the oppression in 1984; we are free beings left to live in the big world ourselves as we see fit.
  • 2. jamesc | 2016-10-29
We live in a world that has similarities to George Orwell’s 1984 however we have many more freedoms than his fictional dystopia. Orson’s world is an exaggerated view of modern day society.
For similarities, we are always surveyed through technology and media. The government can watch anyone they want through phone and satellite surveillance. In this way our worlds are the same, always connected, always watched.
We are not as oppressed as the people in 1984. We have freedom of speech, freedom of press as well as the freedom to choose who we marry, and how we live our own lives. Without freedom of choice, there is no hope, it is a dystopia.
We live is a democracy, but the world of 1984 is an oppressive, totalitarian regime. The government in our world is a liberal form of government. Instead of a one regime rule, the majority of our countries have democratic elections. Because of this we speak up and use our voice without fear of getting “vaporized”.
Our world has its flaws, and in some ways, we have lived up to the warnings of George orwell, but the amount of freedoms we have and the amount of good technology does prove that 1984 is not very similar to our world today.
Megan McKenna
  • 3. Megan McKenna | 2016-10-27
Are we living in 1984?
There are many elements of our society that are eerily similar to those of George Orwell’s dystopian 1984 society. In an article published by Slate Magazine magazine we see that the confidentiality agreement of the Smart TV by Samsung subtly admits that the Smart TVs are capable of transmitting information as well as receiving it, not unlike the “telescreens” of 1984 that transmit and record each movement. The device warns users that personal information spoken in front of a Smart TV may be transmitted to a 3rd party voice recognition. With invasive devices like the Smart TV how different can our society truly be from that of Winston’s? We limit and censor the information open to the public and punish individuals like Edward Snowden that try to release them. Many totalitarian governments still exist and are growing. North Koreans have been governed by the same controlling family for many decades. They live in poverty and without contact from the outside world. Their leader Kim Jong Un, publishes falsified information that their uneducated and ignorant population absorbs. With technologie used to survey every movement, dictators cutting off all information and feeding the population falsified lies, we are almost identical to 1984’s dystopian society.
The english debate circles around the subject that we truly are in 1984’s society. As much as we think we are not, we have fallen into a dark abyss where the line between freedom and slavery cannot be distinguished. The society of 1984 has no freedom slowly altering their movements to become less and less apparent until they are walking beings without a purpose. With recent advancements in technology we are easily leading down the same path. We do not question the intentions of government actions or new, more invasive technologies introduced into our society.
Jillian Seitz
  • 4. Jillian Seitz | 2016-10-27
The world of 2016 is many times compared to the fictional totalitarian state of George Orwell’s novel 1984. Some people believe that we are in fact living in the world of this novel.
1984 shows a society grounded in censorship. Citizens must believe, through a process called doublethink, that whatever the government tells them is true. They are not allowed to have access to any other form of media than the one the government supplies; they cannot recieve information from any other source, therefore everything is one-sided and censored. Although someone may say that our world is censored, specifically in the US, we are not anywhere close the what it was like in Orwell’s novel.
Most countries are democracies in 2016, where the people can have a say in the decisions their governments make; without this fundamental right the argument for us living in a dystopian world would be much stronger. So long as we have a say in the decisions our country makes we are not in a dystopia.
Counter to that, some decisions, specifically concerning war, are not dependent on the public. This is most likely never going to change, however if your country makes a decision you do not agree it becomes difficult to stand by. This is something many people bring up when discussing the nature of a democracy.
Thoughts and ideas in 2016 can be persuaded in a certain direction however they cannot be controlled, which is what happens in 1984. There is a rule in which someone can commit thoughtcrime and be arrested by the Thoughtpolice, usually for something as simple as a reaction that was “too” emotional. I believe that only when people begin to limit our thought processes will be the moment we have begun to live in 1984’s world.
Overall, my personal opinion is that currently in the US we are not living in the world Orwell has presented to us through 1984.

-Jillian S
Julian Diaz
  • 5. Julian Diaz | 2016-10-26
The world of today is closely related to that of 1984 by George Orwell, simply hidden by a veil of green and happiness. Though we do not indeed live in a totalitarian state, that is not enough to deny the fact that our world is closely related to the world in which Winston lives. Constant surveillance from hidden cameras in our’s, telescreens in Winston’s, is enough to be concerned about.
The “telescreens” from Winston atmosphere, is the equivalent of our blatant cameras, placed in streets and government property. Though here, it goes much further than that. Things we once considered private are constantly being hacked and spied, watching your every move. This includes, smartphones, computers, televisions, and so on. This has been proven by Damien leLoup on, “un objet de surveillance qui enregistre tout ce qui est dit dans une pièce et épie les faits et gestes des utilisateurs.” In 1984 the people are spied on to prevent rebellion or “unorthodox” thoughts. Today, we are spied on “for our safety” to locate the criminal masterminds or terrorists in hiding, said by Chris Baraniuk on, “Such data is ‘vital for identifying and developing intelligence targets’”. Though how do we know if they lie to us? They could very well be spying on us for different reasons.
One of the main concerns of 1984 is the constant surveillance of the Party, and though we do not notice, or barely notice it, it is the same in our world. There are cameras at every corner, our “private” electronics are bypassed without permission and spy us. There is no way of knowing when or how we are being spied upon.
Julian Diaz
  • 6. Amelie | 2016-10-26
1984 is a novel by George Orwell about a totalitarian regime where the government has complete control over the people and have the right to spy on everything they do. The question is, do we live in the same world as 1984, today? We do have many similarities although not as extreme such as surveillance, media usage and technology.
Surveillance is an issue that we happen to have just like 1984, even though we have some better aspects to it compared to the novel. We have the right and freedom of expression, of course unlike Orwell’s world, to be surveilled by the government. Sometimes the government surveille for criminal acts and solving them and the government also has the right to put cameras in public places, such as schools, work buildings, parking lots, and etc,, as stated in CBS news,
Media is also a big part of the people in 1984, especially in our generation today. Although we use media as a source of almost everything we need, it isn’t as controlled than 1984, where their media is completely overrun by the government. Social media such as, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and etc. sometimes are used for surveillance for once again, evidence and solving crimes. Media and surveillance can relate because unlike 1984, you can share your information to the world which allows the how much you can be spied by the government or the police. Tech Crunch states that police use social media as a source for research of evidence,
We happen to be very similar to Orwell’s world than you would imagine, of course they are in different extremities and differences, George Orwell definitely wasn’t completely wrong about how our world would be today.
  • 7. Ariana | 2016-10-26
George Orwell depicts a totalitarian regime in his novel 1984. In 1984 the government controls the people in many ways, so is our society just like 1984? I believe that there are many opinions on this topic because there are many ways that our government is just like the government in 1984 and there are some ways where they aren’t alike at all. They both use media to watch they community but use them for different ways. They also used some form of propaganda. But the way they control their people are very different.
They use telescreen to watch the every move of every single person that lives in the community. Anything that was found to be suspicious or some sort of rebellion that was brewing up was report directly to the thought police. Just like our government, they might not be watching our every move but they too use media, they record our messages and phone calls and store them in files, but our government uses these ways to “protect” us while the government of 1984 used these ways to keep control in their community. We have a right for privacy it is stated in the fourth amendment to the US constitution, which states that 'The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated’
The government uses a lot of propaganda to make the people think that they should be worshiped, and our government used propaganda to make people join the army in WWI.
Our government doesn’t control our emotions or relationships like they did in 1984. In 1984 they would separate kids from their mothers so that they wouldn’t have any attachments but now we have the right to stay with our family and have normal attachments.
I believe our government and the government in 1984 are similar in different ways, but we are on a working path to not being like 1984 but there are still things we need to change we need to give more privacy to the community even though our government uses it to protect us.
  • 8. Leopold | 2016-10-26
1984 is a dystopian society where the populace is constantly being watched. The population is watched by surveillance devices such as the telescreen. The telescreens are used to monitor the people of Oceania. This can be related to our lives in 1984. For example at our school our principles agreed on setting up surveillance cameras that work 24 hours a week. I think this was a bad idea because some people at our school feel oppressed with the excess amounts of cameras.
Another example we have of being watched constantly is on our personal electronic devices. The government of the country you are currently may have total access into your personal information. In 1984 there is a surveillance monitor in every home that is in operation all the time. In our current generation we have been introduced to electronics at a very early age. Practically all of our devices have some sort of viewing camera. This camera can be accessed by the government at any time if needed to be watched on.
  • 9. Annabelle | 2016-10-26
Orwell’s 1984, is a world in which all is surveilled and the government can exercise its power over the citizens without necessarily being just about it. Our world has many things in common with 1984 although it is not an exact replica of Orwell’s 1984.
Just like 1984 the government can surveille us through media. There are many examples of companies selling their customers information to assist to government investigations without having any warrants for it. The customers can try to testify but the government has more power of the citizens. We have some differences from 1984 such as being capable of giving away our own privacy of our own will on social media apps such as: FaceBook, Instagram, Twitter. BBC shows a perfect example of anyone using their authority to invade privacy through media. They give the example UK spy agencies broke privacy rules.
Once again Orwell got it right that in both his world and our world there is an endless war. CNN gives proof that we are living in an ongoing war “so called ongoing war of terror with no end in sight, a generalized societal fear, suspension of certain civil liberties, and an ill-defined enemy who could be anywhere, and anything”. There aren't only ongoing civil wars but also wars that have been going on for as long as i can remember between other countries.
Our world is in fact very similar to Orwell’s 1984, of course there are some differences. I think Orwell wasn’t far off on his interpretation of 1984.
  • 10. Lauren | 2016-10-26
George Orwell creates a world without privacy in 1984. The totalitarian regime watches the people through a device called the telescreen. The telescreen picks up every sound and movement that a person makes. Anything that seems suspicious is reported to the Thought police and the people are then eliminated. George Orwell tried to warn us and his prediction for the future has come true.
After reading an article from Samsung has come out with a TV that has voice recognition. The small problem with voice recognition, is that it picks up everything that you say. This data is then heard and kept by a third party. In the Terms and Conditions, they don't specify who this third Party is. You might be thinking, if it's in the Terms and Conditions, people already know about this and therefore choose their fate. No. Many people just skip the Terms and Conditions due to the excitement of this amazing and new technologies. But what if they did read it? Would you read up to 50 pages of Terms and Conditions that are hard to understand due to their intense vocabulary. People are not only deprived of their privacy but the knowledge that they are being deprived.
It can be said that if it weren't for human ignorance, we wouldn't be in this situation and therefore, it isn't really our fault. Part of the reason why the Party had complete control over the populace, was the ignorance of the people. Through ignorance, a totalitarian dictatorship came into place. Today, our ignorance gives free passage to technology that strives to take away the privacy that Orwell has warned us about.
BBC warns us about the access that a government has everyone texts, phone calls, and google searches. They say it's for our protection and the protection of others but shouldn't we have the right to privacy? Governments become corrupt. Our information that the government checks to protect us, can easily become what's harming us. Somehow, people, terrorists, find their way into governments and their private data and they use it to their advantage.
So should we trust the technology that has been given to us? Should we succumb to what we call modern day necessities? The price is only our privacy. Computers and phones should be kept for educational purposes at schools or institutions. Other than that, people can start relying on old day technology. We can send letters. We can read books. Not only does this give us privacy, it gives posterity a chance to separate from technology and connect face to face.
  • 11. Emma | 2016-10-26
In the science fiction novel 1984 by George Orwell, a totalitarian government rules over the lives of innocent citizens. The book follows two characters, Winston and Julia, in their rebellious adventures against the Party. Although 1984 was written as a warning to not become a dystopia, it seems to many that we have ignored that message completely. First of all, the amount of surveillance used by governments today is very near the amount imagined by Orwell. In Great Britain in October 2016, a group called Privacy International accused British spy agencies of breaking basic privacy rules (BBC News). Similar claims were made in the United States by Edward Snowden, a computer technology professional who proved that we are being watched; Snowden leaked NSA documents explaining global surveillance policies (Wikipedia). In this sense, we are very much like Oceania, with its telescreens and constant watching. Another way that we are very much like 1984 is the censure of press. Modern North Korea is the closest thing we can get to the dystopian society that Orwell described. Anything said and done by North Korean people is censored by the government. Information entering and leaving North Korean governments is strictly watched and controlled, and if any negative information concerning the government is caught, people are put in prisons, comparable to room 101, or killed, also comparable to room 101.
Although all of this can be said comparing 1984 to our modern day society, we can also argue that our society is nothing like Orwell’s. For example, our society is a self-proclaimed and exemplary democracy. We hold fair elections every year, and citizens are protected by their basic constitutional rights (National Archives).
In conclusion, some aspects of our modern society can be considered totalitarian and comparable to 1984, whereas others, like our countries political stance, are free and very, very different from that of Orwell’s 1984.
  • 12. samuel | 2016-10-26
Nous sommes proches du monde orwellien car n’importe où nous allons. il y a des caméra de sécurité qui nous regardent, que cela soit dans un magasin,un lieu public, à l’école ou même chez nous.Cet abus de sécurité nuit à notre liberté et nous forcent à agir conformément aux règlements car nous sommes constamment observés.Les caméras de sécurité sont censées être là pour assurer notre sécurité, mais l’abus de cette sécurité fait de ces caméras des minis télécrans, comme dans le roman de Georges Orwell.De même avec le télévision Samsung qui entend ce qu’on dit grâce a leur "voice recognition system" , ou idem pour les ordinateur avec Windows 10 (qui se télécharge de force au bout d’un moment) Cortanna qui vous espionne dès que vous prononcez“hey cortana” , qui ne peut pas ètre éteint, et qui collecte tout les informations de votre ordinateur .Il a aussi siri sur les produits Apple qui enregistre notre voix quand on parle et l'associe à une identification pendant 6 mois Puis Apple conserve les droits d'utilisation pendant 18 mois pour des publicite ou des tests pour ameliorer siri avec notre propre voix. Si on désactive Siri cependant, toutes les données sont t effacées. Pour finir, on peut aussi géolocaliser vos objets Apple avec un Apple Id. En conclusion, pour moi, nous vivons dans un monde Orwellien.

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  • 13. Samantha | 2016-10-26
I think that everyone has a different opinion on whether or not we live in 1984. I think that some people think we do and some people think we don't because it depends on your life situation. For instance, if you live in a country or city such as the United States of America, in which each citizen has freedom of speech, expression, opinion, and thought, and they all have individuality, and morality then you probably think that you are not living in 1984 but there might still be a few little characteristics where you live that are the same in 1984 such as security cameras or police. Another example is, if you live under a dictatorship or even a totalitarian regime such as North Korea, you might think you are living in 1984 because you have no freedom what so ever because one leader has complete control over you and your life and the media and also the economy and military. The leader maintains so much control by using terror (police), violence, charisma, propaganda, and ideology. I think that I live in a country that is not totally living in 1984 (USA). The few aspects that I think are the same as 1984 are the fact that the government or anyone really can "watch" us or "follow" us through social media, just like how in 1984 there were telescreens everywhere and Big Brother (the leader) was always watching his citizens. Also just like in 1984 we have police but ours aren't as threatening only in some cases where it is actually needed like if someone is using physical violence against them as well.

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